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What Are Domainers and Domain Companies Buying?

The Domains Wanted section at NamePros forum sure has been interesting lately.

I’ve used the domains wanted section to make several purchases and blogged about my experience acquiring domains there. I always figured it’s a given, on the domain forum you expect domainers to look for cheap deals, no domain investor ever wants to pay “end user pricing.” That being said there are some funny posts the last few weeks by several members that are titled something like this:  I will buy killer one word, two word, LLL or LLLL .com ONLY if you are extremely DESPERATE for money and have no other options!!

Lol..we get it…you want to buy names cheap, who doesn’t?  So, should every serious domain investor flood the domain wanted section or blogs with this kind of post?  Or should buyers continue posting the types of names they want buy with their budget?  A big part of successful domaining is finding and negotiating a good deal, these posts seem lazy in my opinion but there’s a sucker born every day I guess.

My favorite current thread is by domain broker Andrew Rosener of Media Options, they are enthusiastically trying to fill a portfolio with domains from every year starting in 1987-2017.

I am looking to buy at least one domain name from both years: 1990 & 1991

I really don’t care about the quality of the domain. 

The WHOIS data must show the original registration date.

I’ll pay a fair price. Probably more than anyone else would pay. Budget is between $1,000 and $100,000 (depends on the domain of course!).

I am completing a portfolio which includes a domain name from every year except 1986 (will take one of those too if you happen to find one!), 1990 and 1991. 

1987: ksr.com
1988: cli.com
1989: murphy.com 
1990: ? (insert: OpusTech.com)
1991: ? (insert: Aracor.com)
1992: ins.com
1993: pwl.com
1994: impala.com
1995: bigjohnson.com
1996: kettle.com
1997: backflip.com
1998: flawless.com
1999: axp.com
2000: vvr.com
2001: loro.com
2002: lare.com
…and so on and so on…

Almost complete, (UPDATE: portfolio is now complete) the portfolio was missing domains from years 1990 and 1991 but since posting yesterday MO has purchased OpusTech.com which has a registration date of 8-30-1990.  The whois does show MediaOptions as the new owner and domaintools.com also lists it for sale at $15,000 which is likely still lingering from the previous owner.  In the post it is also mentioned that he will buy a 1986 domain if you can find one.  There are 6 domains registered in 1985 and 53 registered in 1986*, most look like they are in use but I didn’t check any.

Besides aged and premium .COM names there is a lot of demand for Brandable and pronounceable 5-7 letter .COMs, and several LLLL (four letter) .com requests with many of them also looking for pronounceable patterns.  Cryptocurrency and Weed/Pot/Cannabis and Advertising/Tech domains seem to get a lot of requests in the domain wanted section at NamePros recently as well.

So, if you have some good domains, investors are buying…and they are still only paying reseller prices in most cases. Good luck and happy hunting/selling!

*source 100 oldest domain names

NamePros Closing in On 1,000,000 Members

NamePros.com is the largest domain name forum online and has been around since 2003.  Over the last 13 years it has seen a couple of ownership changes, several upgrades/updates and along the way it has picked up 999,975 members (as of this morning).  Goes to show how much the domain naming industry is really growing.

For me, NamePros has been more than just a great place for discussion, reading and research but also offers a large and active domain marketplace.  Over the last 2-3 years I have also noticed NamePros really getting in tune with the rest of the industry.  By adding a very active blog and social media presence, I now see more and more key industry players posting and participating on NamePros.  It really is evolving into a complete domain community and NP and all of its moderators should be proud.

Of course, any forum reaching 1,000,000 members is worth celebrating.  NamePros and friends ran a contest (already closed) and are set to give away some cool prizes soon including NamesCon tickets and advertising packages for the member who guesses the right date/time of the 1,000,000th sign up.  Looks like it will happen in the next day or two! Big congrats and thanks much to NamePros for building and maintaining such a great community.

Current forum stats (as of 5.16.2017 @ 8:15 MST):

Discussions: 1,018,748
Posts: 6,153,785
Members: 999,975

Click HERE to see NP members lists including most posts, most points, notable, top members, staff and representatives

Poll: Will Liquid ChiPs Continue To Dip in 2016?

2016 is flying by and we are getting closer to expiration dates on many different type of ChiPs (Chinese Premium) names that were bought out last year.  Many of these being longer numerics and 3-5 L/N/C domains in com net and org as well as many new extensions.  My guess is we’ll see massive drops as buyouts won’t hold but the biggest question is what is in store for the most liquid ChiPs like LLL, LLLL, 4N and 5N .com/.net?

Excluding 3 letter .coms, I think the best indicator on how ChiPs are doing overall is to look at the LLLL .coms which have dipped to average trading price around $1100 – $1500 with a few falling just short of the $2k mark. Source That’s a big decline compared to when they were trading at their peak a few months ago for $2500-$3000.  The LLLL .com ChiPs seem to have stopped their descent at the $1k+ mark and I think that’s a good sign.

So, with tons of renewals looming and potential massive drops in the lower end ChiP market (5L .com, 6N – 8N .com, 3-5 letter/number/character names in .xyz, .top, .club, .online, .etc) How do you think the liquid ChiP market will fair in 2016?

How will liquid ChiP domains finish out 2016?

  • Start to gradually increase almost back to 2015 Q4 figures (30%, 14 Votes)
  • Continue to drop but still have more value than similar non-ChiP domains (22%, 10 Votes)
  • Hold steady (22%, 10 Votes)
  • Sink like the Titanic (20%, 9 Votes)
  • Skyrocket! (7%, 3 Votes)

Total Voters: 46

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3 Interesting Auctions at NamePros

There are more and more daily posts popping up that focus on domain auctions.  Maybe the first and most consistent is Shane’s DSAD.com List of Auctions.  I read his post every morning along with my first cup of coffee.  Shane does a great job of researching and putting together relevant lists and then adding a bit of commentary and humor to his daily posts.

Often times I run into auctions on NamePros that haven’t been covered.  There are a couple of those going on now that haven’t had coverage on a domain blog as far as I know.  No affiliate links and these aren’t my auctions.

ASAD.com – One of the better pronounceable LLLL .coms on the market right now, high bid has already surpassed floor price of a 4L .com chip and I wouldn’t be surprised to see bidding on this to continue in the the $5,xxx range. [EDIT] AFTER INVESTIGATION BY NAMEPROS MODERATORS, IT WAS REVEALED THIS IS A STOLEN DOMAIN, AUCTION WAS CLOSED[/EDIT]

LFLL.net – I have a couple similarly patterned 4L .net chips and have sold some in current bid range.  Hoping my gamble to hold out for higher pays off.

G8X.com – Not that special of a CCC .com if it didn’t contain an ‘8’, nonetheless it’s a short .com and has received bids above the observed wholesale minimum for LNL patterns according to 3character.com

 

NamePros Member Warns of Buyer Trickery

NamePros member frank-germany started a thread this morning that warned of trickery with some buyer’s that he’s experienced on NP and even Sedo.  His post is as follows (copied with his permission)

“it looks to me like here are members who may try this trick:

get you into a deal
and then after its locked in
like agreed in escrow
or SOLD here

after getting you down as much as possible

then do not pay
and as the domain is locked for them

simply wait for the development of the ( chinese ) market

and later if market goes up
may eventually pay you then
and if not
they may simply just disapear”

So basically, you are selling a domain or maybe a portfolio of domains, the buyer negotiates to your bottom line price.  Then they don’t pay right away.  Perhaps days, weeks or even months later they resurface, send payment and expect to get the domains at that price.  By then the market may have matured and profit would be realized almost immediately if the seller finishes the transaction.  This could happen on many marketplaces that don’t have set time periods in which the transaction must be completed.

Of course, a way to combat this is to always specify in your original NamePros sale post that payment must be received within a certain time frame.  Not a huge security threat or anything like that but I thought it was an interesting observation and new domainers could easily fall victim to this kind of trickery…not sure what else to call it because there’s nothing about it that sounds illegal.

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